Tuesday, June 19, 2007
Humboldt County needs a slaughter house
As you may know, there’s a Senate Bill moving through the legislative process that would widen highway 101 at Richardson Grove to allow Surface Transportation Assistance Act (STAA) trucks to haul live cattle South from Humboldt for slaughter. The widening might require the removal of old-growth redwoods.
While there have been some interesting ideas that would preclude cutting the trees, such as installing traffic lights at either end to allow nighttime one-way traffic to accommodate the trucks, there is perhaps a local solution -- a Humboldt County slaughter house.
Why ship cattle south when processing and packaging could happen here, creating jobs and high-quality local products? And for the motivated entrepreneur, money from the Headwaters Fund could be accessed to start the business. The Fund is currently accepting applications.
The slaughter house could also service Del Norte, though adjustments to the highway may still be required at Big Lagoon.
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Slaughterhouses require lots of water. Where would that water come from?
# posted by 
: 6/19/2007 10:08:00 AM
: 6/19/2007 10:08:00 AM
Not a bad idea. Assuming you feel like sharing our yummy Humboldt grass-fed beef with the crowds to the south.
(oh - those crashing sounds are all the right-wing ding-a-lings falling off their chairs.)
(oh - those crashing sounds are all the right-wing ding-a-lings falling off their chairs.)
# posted by : 6/19/2007 10:11:00 AM
: 6/19/2007 10:11:00 AM
The beef would definitely be marketed all around, which would be good for us.
As for the water - a tricky subject. Growing cattle takes a lot of water, too.
As for the water - a tricky subject. Growing cattle takes a lot of water, too.
We have one. The cattle being shipped in and out are not necessarily going to slaughter.
# posted by : 6/19/2007 10:19:00 AM
: 6/19/2007 10:19:00 AM
It's a shame that so much of our grass-fed local beef gets shipped off to Redding to spend their last 2 months living in their own shit on a feed lot. They start with a premium 'value-added' product and reduce it down to the lowest-common denominator. The ranchers can't recoup the extra value that's inherent in the way their beef is raised.
They need to slaughter, package, distribute and, most importantly, market this premium product from here.
They need to slaughter, package, distribute and, most importantly, market this premium product from here.
oh we are surrounded by intellectual geniuses with a masters in agriculture.there is not enough cattle to support a commercial slaughterhouse but maybe if we cut down two trees the big trucks (5 ft longer)could bring up more cattle oops that would defeat the purpose.
# posted by : 6/19/2007 10:47:00 AM
: 6/19/2007 10:47:00 AM
Uh, you know, it's legal for the large trucks to go in and out of Crescent City right? We would still have to have large truck access for the meat to GO AWAY from Humboldt County, along with the byproducts of slaughter.
Plus I'd love to see the NIMBY left wingers come out and support a slaughterhouse. You do know the smells that come from a place like that right? And I'm not talking about the feed lots. But we could get away with a small one, if we could get the large trucks in and out of Humboldt County! And for the record, it should be 299 getting the buff, not 101. 101 would be good only for shipping things out of the county, but there are no large storage areas in the Bay Area, it is all over in Tracy and Stockton.
But you knew that already right?
Plus I'd love to see the NIMBY left wingers come out and support a slaughterhouse. You do know the smells that come from a place like that right? And I'm not talking about the feed lots. But we could get away with a small one, if we could get the large trucks in and out of Humboldt County! And for the record, it should be 299 getting the buff, not 101. 101 would be good only for shipping things out of the county, but there are no large storage areas in the Bay Area, it is all over in Tracy and Stockton.
But you knew that already right?
# posted by : 6/19/2007 11:00:00 AM
: 6/19/2007 11:00:00 AM
Oh yeah, the road is pretty fine for travel with the STAA trucks, after all, way oversized moving trucks have been coming into this area for years. In fact, there is a nice 379 Pete with a condo on the back with a full sized trailer in Humboldt County right now, it's about 80 feet long and drove into Humboldt County all by itself.
# posted by : 6/19/2007 11:04:00 AM
: 6/19/2007 11:04:00 AM
So Mr/Ms H, you are now an expert in the cattle/meat business. What you are is an idiot. If there were the market here, there would be a slaughterhouse here. Safeway, Rays, Costco have there own contracts for meat. Local businesses in Ferndale, Eureka and Hydesville get there beef locally. Your slaughterhouse idea is out of touch with the financial realities for the ranchers. But...that hasn't ever stopped you from piping in on something that you relatively NOTHING about before has it.
Take out two trees and make this stretch safe.
Take out two trees and make this stretch safe.
# posted by : 6/19/2007 11:08:00 AM
: 6/19/2007 11:08:00 AM
Well there once was the meat processing plant over here in South Eureka. It used to stink to high heaven.I always wondered how they pulled it off with the environmental regs that exist,and its proximity close to the bay.But I can't remember why it closed,and maybe that's it.
# posted by : 6/19/2007 11:52:00 AM
: 6/19/2007 11:52:00 AM
There's still Redwood Meat Co., in Myrtletown. I think they're still in business. The sign's still up.
south eureka was a tallow works behind RockinR not a processing plant the bisio family ran it but that didnt help the smell
# posted by : 6/19/2007 12:17:00 PM
: 6/19/2007 12:17:00 PM
And local ordinances were passed to prohibit the tallow works from continuing in business. Now if you have a horse or cattle that dies you need to find a really big ranch and pay them to bury the animal or you have to haul it out of the county. Ridiculous.
Cut the trees and widen the road.
Cut the trees and widen the road.
# posted by : 6/19/2007 12:30:00 PM
: 6/19/2007 12:30:00 PM
Yes Redwood Meat is still in business. Once again Herlardo you have proven yourself completely out of touch with reality.
That business is known to those in the livestock business but they are not putting a "slaughterhouse open for business" sign on their door. You'd have all the freaks in Humboldt camping on their front steps protesting like they did the Co-op lobsters.
That business is known to those in the livestock business but they are not putting a "slaughterhouse open for business" sign on their door. You'd have all the freaks in Humboldt camping on their front steps protesting like they did the Co-op lobsters.
# posted by : 6/19/2007 02:48:00 PM
: 6/19/2007 02:48:00 PM
There is obviously some slaughtering going in Humboldt. How else would the Co-op get its grass-fed beef?
But my eco-groovy dreams may be dashed by the lack of year-round local grass available for any large-scale Humboldt grass-fed beef. While we have our little nitch here in the county, it appears unlikely to expand.
And yeah, I know, beef itself is not eco-groovy, so save your lectures.
But my eco-groovy dreams may be dashed by the lack of year-round local grass available for any large-scale Humboldt grass-fed beef. While we have our little nitch here in the county, it appears unlikely to expand.
And yeah, I know, beef itself is not eco-groovy, so save your lectures.
There is a local family owned meat packaging business just down the road from where I live. I've never noticed any bad smells. Before there was a middle class there was the butcher, the baker, and the candlestick maker. Why think in terms of a large, unsupportable slaughterhouse when a number of family owned businesses would serve the needs of the community better. Wouldn't a small business that offers custom meat processing for local farmers and hunters with a store front where local eggs, milk and other farm products are sold be beneficial?
# posted by : 6/19/2007 03:26:00 PM
: 6/19/2007 03:26:00 PM
Wouldn't a small business that offers custom meat processing for local farmers and hunters with a store front where local eggs, milk and other farm products are sold be beneficial?
It would. Such a business would probably thrive and I would support it. But it wouldn't address the issue at Richardson Grove.
It would. Such a business would probably thrive and I would support it. But it wouldn't address the issue at Richardson Grove.
Tallow works smell bad.
So do whaling stations.
But you don't hear anybody in Humboldt County protesting tallow works or whaling stations anymore, do you?
I think that says a lot about this controversy.
So do whaling stations.
But you don't hear anybody in Humboldt County protesting tallow works or whaling stations anymore, do you?
I think that says a lot about this controversy.
# posted by : 6/19/2007 03:40:00 PM
: 6/19/2007 03:40:00 PM
I support the production and consumption of Beef, the other red meat.
# posted by : 6/19/2007 03:42:00 PM
: 6/19/2007 03:42:00 PM
Yes, Redwood Meats is alive and thriving.
I used to live across the field from them for nearly 10 years. The only time you would hear hyde nor hair from them was when they were slaughtering hogs.
The cattle and sheep are pretty dumb to the whole process. But, the pigs know exactly what is happening. The bellowing is pretty intense. And not from the animals getting killed, but the ones standing in line. Never once did I detect any odors. Yeah, they've only been in business for about 50 years.
My opinion? Take out the trees.
Environmentally sensitive? Malarkey. More like religious fervor.
I used to live across the field from them for nearly 10 years. The only time you would hear hyde nor hair from them was when they were slaughtering hogs.
The cattle and sheep are pretty dumb to the whole process. But, the pigs know exactly what is happening. The bellowing is pretty intense. And not from the animals getting killed, but the ones standing in line. Never once did I detect any odors. Yeah, they've only been in business for about 50 years.
My opinion? Take out the trees.
Environmentally sensitive? Malarkey. More like religious fervor.
Every meat-eater should serve time on the line in a slaughterhouse.
Bring back the draft.
Bring back the draft.
# posted by : 6/19/2007 08:19:00 PM
: 6/19/2007 08:19:00 PM
"Every meat-eater should serve time on the line in a slaughterhouse."
Sure 619, just as soon as every vegan serves time in the stifling heat of the central and san joaquin valleys picking lettuce, tomatos and the like...and No your little garden doesnt count...
Heck Yeah, Heraldanonymous its about safety. It's also about money in the sense that it brings more business in and out of Humboldt County. Not necessarily a bad think nor is one mutually exclusive of one another.
Probably much easier to bring in the really, really super ginormous HomeDepot Monster 60 wheelers that you lay at home quivering in fear of as soon as those two trees are felled...
Sure 619, just as soon as every vegan serves time in the stifling heat of the central and san joaquin valleys picking lettuce, tomatos and the like...and No your little garden doesnt count...
Heck Yeah, Heraldanonymous its about safety. It's also about money in the sense that it brings more business in and out of Humboldt County. Not necessarily a bad think nor is one mutually exclusive of one another.
Probably much easier to bring in the really, really super ginormous HomeDepot Monster 60 wheelers that you lay at home quivering in fear of as soon as those two trees are felled...
# posted by : 6/19/2007 08:59:00 PM
: 6/19/2007 08:59:00 PM
"...just as soon as every vegan serves time in the stifling heat... picking lettuce..."
No, I would draft those who want undocumented workers deported for that work.
No, I would draft those who want undocumented workers deported for that work.
# posted by : 6/19/2007 09:46:00 PM
: 6/19/2007 09:46:00 PM
"Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances of survival for life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet."
Albert Einstein
A slaughterhouse would be a nice addition to the Marina Center.
Albert Einstein
A slaughterhouse would be a nice addition to the Marina Center.
# posted by : 6/19/2007 11:46:00 PM
: 6/19/2007 11:46:00 PM
Heraldo - it is about safety and money - not either or. The way you make this stretch safe is to take out a couple of trees to straighten it. If you support a bypass a) it will never get done because it is a very stupid waste of funds and way too expensive. Hek the Willits bypass isn’t going thru because it didn’t get the funds. Are you and you “eco-groovy” friends going to pay for this or are you again going to support every lame brain scheme to keep this place isolated and really “behind the redwood curtain.”
Your lack of reality is truly troubling.
Your lack of reality is truly troubling.
# posted by : 6/20/2007 09:27:00 AM
: 6/20/2007 09:27:00 AM
Rose, I can't believe it! You finally had something to say about a subject other than Richard Salzman! Come on, Rose. What's the deal with your Salzman fixation? Are you a woman scorned or what? Inquiring minds want to know.
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